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	<description>Encouraging Western people to engage in Global mission in a Vulnerable Way</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Araujo</title>
		<link>http://www.vulnerablemission.com/2008/03/06/alliance-for-vulnerable-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Araujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question of which langauge to use is very important and also a great challenge. Throughout history people have found great benefit in having trade languages, languages that for a variety of reasons emerged as familiar enough to different people groups to serve as a bridge. trade languages seem to have been particularly useful in commerce.

Dominant societies often lend their language to the rest of the world as they spread their influence cross-culturally: Greek, Latin, Arabic, Spanish, French, English, Swahili etc.

Of course, a trade language gives advantage to its native speakers. Yet, the alternatives are not usually very practical. If we don&#039;t use a shared language, how else do we communicate important ideas? One model is that of the United Nations, which provides expensive simultaneous tranlations in its sessions, so that each national representative may speak in his/her national language. Yet, I suspect that in the hallways of the UN and behind closed doors, where important decisions are made, things may be different.

English has become in our time the dominant trade language in international contexts. On the one hand, it is a useful tool; on the other it favors native English speakers.

I have developped some suggestions for how it can be used more productively in international gatherings. These suggestions recognize its limitations as well as its advantages as a trade language, and offer practical ways to minimize the problem and increase the benefit.
If you are interested in seeing this documnt, let me know and I will gladly send a copy to you. It doesn&#039;t resolve all the issues, but it can improve effectiveness in international meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of which langauge to use is very important and also a great challenge. Throughout history people have found great benefit in having trade languages, languages that for a variety of reasons emerged as familiar enough to different people groups to serve as a bridge. trade languages seem to have been particularly useful in commerce.</p>
<p>Dominant societies often lend their language to the rest of the world as they spread their influence cross-culturally: Greek, Latin, Arabic, Spanish, French, English, Swahili etc.</p>
<p>Of course, a trade language gives advantage to its native speakers. Yet, the alternatives are not usually very practical. If we don&#8217;t use a shared language, how else do we communicate important ideas? One model is that of the United Nations, which provides expensive simultaneous tranlations in its sessions, so that each national representative may speak in his/her national language. Yet, I suspect that in the hallways of the UN and behind closed doors, where important decisions are made, things may be different.</p>
<p>English has become in our time the dominant trade language in international contexts. On the one hand, it is a useful tool; on the other it favors native English speakers.</p>
<p>I have developped some suggestions for how it can be used more productively in international gatherings. These suggestions recognize its limitations as well as its advantages as a trade language, and offer practical ways to minimize the problem and increase the benefit.<br />
If you are interested in seeing this documnt, let me know and I will gladly send a copy to you. It doesn&#8217;t resolve all the issues, but it can improve effectiveness in international meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.vulnerablemission.com/2008/03/06/alliance-for-vulnerable-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jarkko, Thanks for your comment on my comment! 

I had to think a great deal about the above comment from Joy. The AVM chooses to carry out ministry using the languages of the people being reached. So then, what to do if someone of such a language engages a vulnerable missionary using a Western language?

Of course, everyone is welcome into this debate. But is there a greater level of privilege for two-thirds world people? If so, then will we be cutting off our own legs, as again important debate will happen in English, and whatever happens in African language will only be that which remains for those who are uneducated and so not able to understand English.

Of course non-Westerners have insights that many Westerners do not have and would benefit from. But can they communicate them sufficiently helpfully in a language rooted in a context other than their own (of which they may have limited knowledge), as to earn them privileged position in missiological debate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jarkko, Thanks for your comment on my comment! </p>
<p>I had to think a great deal about the above comment from Joy. The AVM chooses to carry out ministry using the languages of the people being reached. So then, what to do if someone of such a language engages a vulnerable missionary using a Western language?</p>
<p>Of course, everyone is welcome into this debate. But is there a greater level of privilege for two-thirds world people? If so, then will we be cutting off our own legs, as again important debate will happen in English, and whatever happens in African language will only be that which remains for those who are uneducated and so not able to understand English.</p>
<p>Of course non-Westerners have insights that many Westerners do not have and would benefit from. But can they communicate them sufficiently helpfully in a language rooted in a context other than their own (of which they may have limited knowledge), as to earn them privileged position in missiological debate?</p>
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		<title>By: Jarkko Laine</title>
		<link>http://www.vulnerablemission.com/2008/03/06/alliance-for-vulnerable-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarkko Laine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I want to congratulate you for tackling these important questions. Your ideas make a lot of sense to me. 

I first heard about Vulnerable Mission from my dad this weekend. We had some interesting discussions on your thoughts and efforts during this Easter time. I feel that you are onto something, and wish all the best for your work!

As someone not familiar with the Swahili language, though, I&#039;d love to have the above comment translated into English... (Finnish would be even better... :)) I suppose it was an answer to the question posed by the commentator named Joy? If not, I&#039;d also be interested in hearing what you think about that question as I&#039;m sure it&#039;s something you have had to think about in your mission already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I want to congratulate you for tackling these important questions. Your ideas make a lot of sense to me. </p>
<p>I first heard about Vulnerable Mission from my dad this weekend. We had some interesting discussions on your thoughts and efforts during this Easter time. I feel that you are onto something, and wish all the best for your work!</p>
<p>As someone not familiar with the Swahili language, though, I&#8217;d love to have the above comment translated into English&#8230; (Finnish would be even better&#8230; <img src='http://www.vulnerablemission.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) I suppose it was an answer to the question posed by the commentator named Joy? If not, I&#8217;d also be interested in hearing what you think about that question as I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s something you have had to think about in your mission already.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.vulnerablemission.com/2008/03/06/alliance-for-vulnerable-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ubaya, pengine, VM inaamini ni vizuri Wamissionari kutoka nchi za magharibi wajaribu kuhusiana na wa dunia ya 2/3 kwa lugha yao. Na kufanya huduma kupitia mali yao. Sasa vipi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubaya, pengine, VM inaamini ni vizuri Wamissionari kutoka nchi za magharibi wajaribu kuhusiana na wa dunia ya 2/3 kwa lugha yao. Na kufanya huduma kupitia mali yao. Sasa vipi?</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://www.vulnerablemission.com/2008/03/06/alliance-for-vulnerable-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-373</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to read what the Christians in the two-third world are saying about this. A voice from the recipients would be a good voice to listen to. They have a voice, invite them in. Otherwise, its will be a one-sided monologue. Learn to listen to the one who has suffered the experimental brunt of development and mission.

If you fail to listen to the voice from the two-third world, your labor is in vain, the mistakes will be repeated, sadly. Exclusivity in theological reflections is like a weak one legged stool, cannot hold any weight. Think about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to read what the Christians in the two-third world are saying about this. A voice from the recipients would be a good voice to listen to. They have a voice, invite them in. Otherwise, its will be a one-sided monologue. Learn to listen to the one who has suffered the experimental brunt of development and mission.</p>
<p>If you fail to listen to the voice from the two-third world, your labor is in vain, the mistakes will be repeated, sadly. Exclusivity in theological reflections is like a weak one legged stool, cannot hold any weight. Think about this.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.vulnerablemission.com/2008/03/06/alliance-for-vulnerable-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to John Lindner, another way to find the articles is to go to the Momentum Magazine (www.momentum-mag.org) or for the pdf versions go to http://is.gd/6hdp.

Thanks also for Alex&#039; comments. In short - yes, I would consider participating in events where these ideas can be more widely shared, and I think others in AVM will also. These AVM conferences among other things are a means to &#039;get the issue onto the radar&#039; for folks.

There is also an extent to which a &#039;vulnerable missionary&#039; ought not to be constantly travelling to international conferences. The above all fall within my three-yearly furlough. I guess that is part of the debate!

Jim Harries</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to John Lindner, another way to find the articles is to go to the Momentum Magazine (www.momentum-mag.org) or for the pdf versions go to <a href="http://is.gd/6hdp" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/6hdp</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks also for Alex&#8217; comments. In short &#8211; yes, I would consider participating in events where these ideas can be more widely shared, and I think others in AVM will also. These AVM conferences among other things are a means to &#8216;get the issue onto the radar&#8217; for folks.</p>
<p>There is also an extent to which a &#8216;vulnerable missionary&#8217; ought not to be constantly travelling to international conferences. The above all fall within my three-yearly furlough. I guess that is part of the debate!</p>
<p>Jim Harries</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Araujo</title>
		<link>http://www.vulnerablemission.com/2008/03/06/alliance-for-vulnerable-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Araujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read all the articles referred to and tend to agree. In fact, I have been saying similar things in various settings, though in slightly different ways. Most recently I was at the WEA Missions Commission consultation where similar thoughts were expressed in conversation with many people. Rather than creating a separate set of activities that further break us up (no one can attend all the worthy events going on), would you consider participating in existing events where these ideas can be shared with a wide range of people from many countries serious about these issues?

Alex Araujo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read all the articles referred to and tend to agree. In fact, I have been saying similar things in various settings, though in slightly different ways. Most recently I was at the WEA Missions Commission consultation where similar thoughts were expressed in conversation with many people. Rather than creating a separate set of activities that further break us up (no one can attend all the worthy events going on), would you consider participating in existing events where these ideas can be shared with a wide range of people from many countries serious about these issues?</p>
<p>Alex Araujo</p>
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		<title>By: John Lindner</title>
		<link>http://www.vulnerablemission.com/2008/03/06/alliance-for-vulnerable-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lindner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is obviously a healthy attempt to rethink missions and the role of Westerners. I read the first two articles and posted my comments after each. The only way I know to get to them is to go Jim Harries&#039; six articles at:
http://www.momentum-mag.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/vulnerablemission.pdf
and then click the comment link under each. You may find them otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is obviously a healthy attempt to rethink missions and the role of Westerners. I read the first two articles and posted my comments after each. The only way I know to get to them is to go Jim Harries&#8217; six articles at:<br />
<a href="http://www.momentum-mag.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/vulnerablemission.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.momentum-mag.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/vulnerablemission.pdf</a><br />
and then click the comment link under each. You may find them otherwise.</p>
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